president obama's numbers. 41% approve his foreign policy handling. to me, those are really tough numbers. the public is saying, we're not sure we approve of how this has been sold so far. >> correct me if i'm wrong, and i follow this stuff pretty closely, foreign policy has long been a place where he was stronger than, say, where he was on the economy, when it relates to people supporting his position, correct? >> i think this is several years after the bin laden killing. which that boosted his numbers. it is interesting, his economic numbers have gone up. but i do think, you know, one thing our pollsters opponent out is once an action occurs if president explains this to the american public, once things, if things end up happening, public opinion can flip on a dime. so this is the situation right now. it could change if strikes occur. >> a very changeable situation.